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October 31, 2003

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*** Dave

The exercise of power within any church must always be done with extraordinary care. Bishop Ingham's actions, as presented, seem heavy-handed and uncharitable. While providing for alternative episcopal oversight is very tricky, treating it like treason or a power challenge is not going to be helpful or healing.

On the other hand, congregations and priests who choose to dissociate themselves from a diocese should not necesarily expect that diocese to continue to provide them with support, be it money or facilities. People need to be free to pull away, partly or in full, but they also need to know that there are consequences in doing so.

Within ECUSA, the issue of women being ordained as finessed by not requiring any particular bishop to perform such ordinations. While this has resulted in some painful situations (women seeking ordination having to move elsewhere to a diocese where they can be supported in that effort, some folks declining to treat ordained women as actual bishops or priests or deacons), the alternative would have been far more destructive. I'm not sure if a similar course can be charted regarding the current homosexuality issue, but something like it must be, if we want to avoid the sort of contention being described here.

Rich

I agree. You will note in my letter to the editor that I tried to balance the need to protect the conscience of the people with the legitimate exercise of church power. In the five years since I wrote it, I have come down more on the side of the people. As for the expectations of the dissidents if you want to be on your own, then you should be, well, on your own.

JACK DOLHANTY

HELLO THERE,SATAN!!xxx~YOU ARE ACCOMPLISHING WHAT YOU FAILED TO DO,BACK IN TIMES OF SODOM & GOMORAH,EH~?WHEN YOU CONVINCED POOR WIFE OF LOT TO TURN BACK & ENGAGE HERSELF WITH SUB~ANIMALISTIC BEHAVIOR,LIKE SAME SEX INTERCOURSE,ENGAGEMENT,ETC.....NOW,WE ARE INDULGED WITH SAME INVOLVEMENT,FOSTERED BY LEADERS,INDEED!!!NOW,GOD BE WITH REV.JAMES WAGNER,ABBOTSFORD,B.C. FOR UPSTANDING AGAINST MANKIND'S ENDEAVOR TO REPLACE THE HAND OF GOD,WITH THEIR OWN LITTLE,SADISTIC, OFF~KILTER COMMANDMENTS!ON GUARD,YOU,SATAN,WITH THE HAND OF GOD,you SHALL BE CAST AGAIN,EH!~INTO THE DARK HALLS OF HELL,WHERE YOU BELONG!!

Midrash-Creed

Dear Sir,

You will find that under the title 'The Agony Of Anglicanism' the Literature List on my newly established web site contains the following items of literature: -
1) ‘How to handle the crisis in Anglicanism’ (A practical guide to explaining how Christians can best respond to the growing divisions within Anglicanism)
2) ‘Mumbling In The Dark’ (A critical review of the poems of Rowan Williams and their wider implications; within the Anglican Church and elsewhere)
3) ‘Why Rowan?’ (Possible reasons as to why God raised Doctor Rowan Williams to be head of the Anglican Communion of seventy million people)
4) Various meditative and controversial material.
5) Bibliographical and chronological information

You will find the web site at www.geocities.com/midrashcreed

Should you wish to bypass the home page try clicking http://www.geocities.com/midrashcreed/contents.htm#ag

The above-cited material assumes that the current crisis in the Anglican Communion is too big to be ignored – largely because it has a potentially lethal interfaith dimension, which could engender large-scale loss of life in this country. It also represents a form of ‘loyalty test’ for those Anglicans who do actually believe in Jesus. I have tried to approach each given topic from a relatively original standpoint – NOT beholden to any party or faction within the Anglican Communion.

You are very welcome to replicate, pass on and quote from any of this literature as long as: -
1) I am informed that such an activity is taking place
2) The original source of ‘Yes-Now’ Publications (Y.N.Ps) is acknowledged.
3) It’s understood that the Copyright remains with the author (who is also the Director of Y.N.Ps.)
4) It’s accepted that the Director is in no sense responsible for: -
· Costs, damages or injuries sustained through the above
· Your own conduct or affairs as an individual person or organisation
(For further details please refer to the Disclaimer, but don't be put off by its rather dry, legastic language.)

Should you wish to respond to this correspondence please contact me over the next three weeks at midrashcreed@yahoo.co.uk.

The ‘Doctor Gareth Bennett affair’ of December 1987 amply explains why, for now, I prefer to withhold personal details. I myself have had bitter first hand experience of the ruthlessness prevailing within the Anglican Church once the authority of its corrupt hierarchy has been called into question.

Yours in Christ,

M.C

Midrash-Creed

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